In a massive Cathy Theys double-header this week, hear parts rescued from our conversation at SyfonyCon Warsaw, which was plagued by technical difficulties and check out Cathy's insightful session, "Patch Reviews: Get good reviews, give good reviews. Faster." It is full of practical advice to take your contribution to Drupal and open source software to the next level. In the podcast interview, we talk about the opportunities Drupal has given Cathy; some of the benefits of the refactoring that has gone into Drupal 8; joining up with the Symfony community: mutual learning, different styles of contribution, Drupal's new relevance; and the business case for open source contribution and sustainability.